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Rematch - The Second Presidential Debate.

Come on Guys - Don't Fight Over Women. It's not the way to win our hearts and minds.

"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" is the way Bunny Goria
Steinem put it when she had it up to here!
That's just the way I felt tonight watching two great leaders of the Free
World circling each other, pointing fingers,
stopping short of actually calling each other 'LIAR'.  President Obama

finally showed up tonight after
his lackluster performance in Denver.  The two men clashed on nearly
everything.  The tone aggressive, combative.

Governor Romney scored points by spewing a litany of the President's failed
policies at home and abroad.  He brought
up the cut in permits being issued for oil and gas drilling.  (According
to on-air sources, permits for offshore drilling have been
cut by 62% -- this figure is not verified.)  He mentioned that 1 in 6
people is living on or below the poverty level.  But he
also missed opportunities to expand on some of his ideas.  He talked about
rewriting the tax code and reducing the tax rates
for the middle class.  There was concern about removing deductions
(especially for home mortgages and education).  He
answered that he would actually put a cap on deductions -- in his words,
'say $25,000' to be used however the taxpayer
wishes.

President Obama skipped his usual salutory thank yous (to Hofstra, to
Romney, to the voters) and dug right into his mission.
He was forceful and aggressive tonight.  For once there was no
self-deprecating humor nor did he make his wife appear
the villain by some silly comment -- his trademarks.  He ended his
appearance by referencing the open-mic comment
of Romney's about the 47% and it delivered a punch that he desperately
needed.

The most unsettling event of the debate was the Benghazi question. 
Governor Romney snapped at the President and questioned
him about the refusal to add extra security that had been requested of the
administration twice.  When Romney criticized the
President for going off to Las Vegas the next day to attend a fundraiser,
Obama insisted he had been in the Rose Garden
claiming he called Benghazi an 'act of terror'.  This puzzled Romney
because Susan Rice, our Ambassador to the United Nations
went on 5 Sunday morning talk shows telling the American people that this
had been a 'spontaneous demonstration' in reaction
to a Youtube movie.  Obama countered that he was in the Rose Garden
delivering a speech in which he said, "No acts of terror
will ever shake the resolve of this great nation".  The moderator, Ms.
Crowley then committed a major error by saying she
had a copy of the transcript right there and read that comment of Obama's
aloud to the audience.  A big mistake on her part.
In fact, when the President uttered those words he was actually referring
to the World Trade Center terrorist attack, not
Benghazi!

I would have to give the President a slight edge in this debate -- he
finally showed up.  As for many of the women -- the trophy
each man was vying for -- sorry guys, my pals and I didn't like the format.
I think it's ludicrous to hear two heavyweights talk
about who is better for women. The stale baloney about equal pay for equal jobs doesn't play well anymore unless you're the CEO..
No thanks, we're strong and independent -- we don't want the tofu with
abortions. 
Bunny Gloria was right!

Bob Blanchard October 17, 2012 at 10:57 am
Excellent points, but I am having a personal, internal debate. Did I waste 1 1/2 hours of my time listening to two people spar over the truth and misleading statements? If a person accidentally miss-speaks that is one thing, but if they purposely miss-state the facts they are liars and don't deserve the public trust. The dictionary defines someone as a chronic liar who makes a habit of doing so, and to underestimate the intelligence of the American public will prove to be a big mistake.
Ilona Saari October 17, 2012 at 04:07 pm
A fun conversation (imo, of course) between Conservative Brooks and Liberal Collins
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/binders-keepers/?emc=eta1
Irene DeBlasio October 17, 2012 at 09:50 pm
Bob B., I'm always grateful for your astute comments and look forward to hearing what you have to say. I'm still waiting to hear the Obama plan for a second term. Maybe that's asking too much or maybe he has already lied too often. Candy Crowley interrupting the debate to read a portion of a speech which President Obama had given honoring the World Trade Towers terrorist attack on 9/11 and trying to pass it off as a reference to Benghazi was bizarre. Speaking of bizarre, somebody who was present said that Michelle Obama was applauding during the debate. Doesn't anybody have a copy of the manual anymore?
Irene DeBlasio October 17, 2012 at 09:55 pm
@Ilona Many thanks for the Brooks/Collins post. It was amusing in a very insular New York way. They never seem to think like the folks in the heartland, do they?. (Please don't let them know.) A little bit of them goes a long way and is probably more fun to read after many cocktails. xoxoxo
Irene DeBlasio October 18, 2012 at 09:14 pm
@PatchReaders GALLUP POLL of likely voters -- Mitt Romney is ahead by 7 points.
chloe October 19, 2012 at 02:25 am
It was a good debate. Exciting and Romney clearly did well however in my opinion I think it's wrong that the third(independent party) isn't allowed to debate with them. And its exciting to watch because you believe the both of them when they call the other one a liar...unortunatly it's easy to believe because they're both lying about certain things. Just think about the things Obama promised during his 2008 campaign that he didn't do. It's like the kid running for school president in 5th grade promising free pizza every day. It gets the kids worked up and excited but most likely isn't gonna happen.
Irene DeBlasio October 19, 2012 at 01:03 pm
@chloe The Third-party candidates will have a debate on October 23rd, streaming live on www.Ora.TV/ - the digital programming service launched by Larry King. You'll be able to hear Gary John (Libertarian candidate), Jill Stein of the Green Party, Virgil Goode (Constitution Party) and Rocky Anderson of the newly formed Justice Party.
Don't forget to watch the final debate between President Obama and Governor Romney on Monday, October 22nd at 6 PM. This debate will be about foreign policy and should reveal their differing ideas and objectives. I always appreciate hearing comments from readers and I am impressed that you seem to be taking an interest in the election process at an early age. Thank you.

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