Krekorian Introduces Motion to Seek Study that Could Lead to Ban of High-Capacity Ammunition Magazines

The city councilman is responding to the North Hollywood shootout and other incidents.

Councilmember Paul Krekorian Tuesday introduced a motion Tuesday that could lead to a ban on the possession of high-capacity ammunition magazines within the city of Los Angeles.

In his motion, the Councilmember, a member of the Public Safety Committee, referenced both the North Hollywood shootout 16 years ago in which two heavily armed gunmen stormed a local bank and attempted to overpower an outgunned LAPD and the Newtown, Connecticut massacre that took the lives of 26 children and adults. In both instances, a high powered high assault rifle was used.

"While high-capacity magazines are not the cause of gun violence, they do make such tragic cases far more deadly," he said.

Currently, state law bans the sale of high-capacity magazines but not the possession of such clips. 

"This gap in the law threatens public safety, because on the streets of Los Angeles, high-capacity magazines pose a daily threat to our citizens and police officers," Councilmember Krekorian said. 

The motion by Councilmember Krekorian asks the City Attorney, the Chief Legislative Analyst and the Police Department to report on "the feasibility, effectiveness and benefits of an ordinance to prohibit the possession of high-capacity ammunition magazines within the City of Los Angeles."

The motion will next be heard in the Public Safety Committee before it returns to the full Council for consideration. The motion is attached.

Eric Feder January 16, 2013 at 07:31 AM
Another infringement on a constitutional right that will turn thousands of law-abiding people into instant felons, Paul? I remember at the last SCNC meeting you attended when you claimed that people had a "first amendment right" to disagree with you, while you used the obnoxious air quotes. If you have no respect for the first amendment, why should we expect you to respect any of the others? Why not just hand a check over to the NRA now instead of waiting for the courts to force them to pay the legal bills? This fight has already been fought and lost by San Francisco (paying the NRA $380,000) because politicians forget about preemption and the Heller and McDonald decisions by the Supreme Court.
Alex White January 16, 2013 at 04:43 PM
This incompetent, knee-jerk, career politician is more dangerous than any person I ever meet owning a gun. In my NH neighborhood, most of the Armenian Thug-boys speeding around in BMW's, running Stop signs, with illegally tinted windows and no license plates, or Dealer's plates, are packing heat and smoking God's Herb-- right in the car. No worries. So, who's going to reel them in? They're already breaking 4 laws allowing a probable cause traffic stop and a search incident to arrest. We used to call it proactive police work. I mean it is common sense, basic police work for God’s sake! If it smells like crap; it is crap. But these particular individuals seem to have complete immunity. And my Armenian neighbors-- trust me I'm surrounded-- they think mortars are casual fireworks. New Years, Memorial Day, Fourth of July, Labor Day, and any family member's birthday or wedding-- BAM! Up in the sky. Windows rattling. Dogs scurrying for cover. And then for days afterward, they unleash the arsenal-- even in the daylight. Apparently, it's not so much the flash that they enjoy as it is the boom. And don’t even get me started on the idiots on the front lawns with the green lasers. I say we enforce the laws already on the books before we institute more laws. And let's start locally-- say in this Mr. K’s district. What you say, K? Are you up for a real challenge, or are you just playing political lip service again?
Will Rogers IV January 16, 2013 at 06:49 PM
Can we say ex post facto law? They let gangbangers walk when they yell 'self defense' yet they want to make many instant criminals. Why bother, you can barely buy bullets in the CITY of LA. Banned in Encino, after all we know that the ROlling Crips drive up to Encino to buy their ammo? BUt we who live here they ban Big5 from having ammo, feel goodnick politico. Cant Paul Krekorian present a useful bill like other counsel members- i.e supporting gay rights in Iraq, waiving seizure of illegal alien's cars, banning Big Macs & Chulapas in South LA, telling you when to water when the City has sprinklers blasting @ City Hall, etc., on every rainy day...and street lights on in the DAYTIME....ah priorities, hell ban everything in LA, like common sense, nobody is walking around w/M-16 w.banana cliips....gheesh prosecute the THUGS not the PEOPLE
Adam January 16, 2013 at 07:36 PM
I'm all in favor of universal background checks for all gun sales and making it easier (or even mandatory) for mental health professionals to flag patients who are potentially dangerous to keep them from buying guns, but banning the possession of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds is just stupid. The sale of these mags has been banned in California for years. No law abiding gun owners (like myself) are buying or selling them. None of the 10,000+ gang members in this city are going to turn in their magazines. The only people this will effect are people who follow the law.
Adam January 16, 2013 at 07:40 PM
Your post is a little off topic Alex, but your description of the Armenian thugs who have been allowed to immigrate to our country in recent decades is sadly very accurate. I have met people of Armenian descent whose families came here in the 20s, and they are nothing like the salvage title BMW driving, food stamp scamming, reckless driving a**holes who have ruined Glendale, east Hollywood, and much of North Hollywood.
Gary January 16, 2013 at 09:02 PM
what an idiot! The North Hollywood shootout? Those were fully automatic military assault rifles which have been illegal since 1933. These knee jerk politicians that reason with emotion rather than objective logic will end up with blood on their hands by wasting their time focusing on guns (the effect) and not looking for the cause. They can start with psychotropic drugs and the mentally insane and the shooter in Newtown had both.
David R January 16, 2013 at 09:29 PM
just another reason to change the leadership of our once great city.
Will Rogers IV January 16, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Will they also seize the LA Sheriffs oversize mags? They are a trigger happy bunch, shotting something like 200_ rounds @ a suspect in a slow moving car- and most missed the guy!! MOre ikely you get shot by a cop for weilding a screwdriver than killed by a M-16 w/a banana clip!
Leigh Datzker January 17, 2013 at 03:20 AM
You cannot have a law that covers one class of people like civilians, while the law ignores other citizens who happen to be in law enforcement or other public duties who then can possess hi capacity magazines. You cannot make something illegal that was once legal..that is called an ex post facto law, banned by out Constitution.
Alex White January 17, 2013 at 03:29 PM
Hardly. The message is clear, if but a metaphor. Take care of the pressing matters first, the ones which affect the residents daily-- as in clean up your own backyard first before you start trying to scrub the entire city on a political whim.
Alex White January 17, 2013 at 03:56 PM
Good points. America embraces a culture of violence, just like Russia. Excluding the military, Russian citizens are mainly disarmed, except for security guards, Para-military and the police. Oh, and criminals of course. They have no moral social code. They're criminals! Yet, Russia still has a significantly high homicide rate. The weapons chosen are ones of convenience-- kitchen utensils, knives, hammers, and hatchets. The most common cause of murder in Russia is domestic violence. On the other hand, America promotes-accepts-institutes violence on many different levels. One factor is the media, television, and Hollywood. They love violent themes and violent topics. Murder and mayhem sells. Likewise, many Americans are raised to solve their problems using tactics of intimidation, threats, bullying, hatred, and eventually violence. It is America's "Culture of Violence" which must be altered before any significant steps toward a peaceful society will stick. It will be a generational shift, not an instantaneous one. And, it will not be accomplished by disarming, de-magazining, de-bulleting. It will be accomplished by education and strict punitive sanctions for "unlawful" violators. Otherwise, we are letting a handful of "mentally unstable" individuals control our future. Are the patients running the Insane Asylum? It appears so. The reality is that criminals will always be here. Find them. Arrest them. Punish them. Severely. And leave the law abiding, rational Americans alone.
Bill Wentz January 17, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Well said. It's just tacky to use a recent tragedy to bring up a 16 year old crime as a reason for passing a law now. If it wasn't a good reason 16 years ago, it's not one now.
Skraeling January 17, 2013 at 09:18 PM
And, what "leadership" would that be? LA city and County have designed governmental systems guaranteed to promote corruption and incompetence with no one person having responsibility for much.....


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